Kirk: did you try to get another copy of the DVD?
maybe it was a bum batch. anyway, dvd players are weird. whenever i'd have a new CD i burned of new music i wanted to show my dad his DVD player/CD player wouldnt ever play it. i burned him a pirated episode of LOST on DVD and to my dismay his POS dvd player started it fine.
Jeremy: no i didn't get a new DVD
it worked fine once i pressed menu
Kirk: i was at best buy yesterday and they have a whole section of "new or better or enhanced or something" DVD's. i dont know what thats about every new technology i take with a grain of salt because i still remember Laser disks. like, you mentioned minidisks too. we used the shit out of our minidisk recorder thingy in my old band. i get the same feeling when i see PSP movies at the video store
Jeremy: there is no way that UMD is going anywhere
Kirk: its such a niche prorpietary market... UMD? is that the shit i saw at Best Buy?
Jeremy: yeah
that's thepsp format "universal meda disc"
Kirk: and whats BluRay?
Jeremy: but there's like nothing that uses it. blueray is the next gen dvd. that and HDDVD
the PS3 uses blueray
Kirk: its like come one guys, VHS or BetaMax,
whats it gonna be so i can buy a damn VCR already.
Jeremy: well its tricky cause the porn industry decided on vhs and that's why it took off
Kirk: i thought it was a government contract ? same difference... dude betamax was sony? another sony proprietary peice of shit...no wonder
Jeremy: lol, but pretty much no one wants porn in HD
Kirk: i read a thing on that. i think i blogged it
Jeremy: how can you film in hd and slather Vaseline on the lense?
Kirk: Local News folk hate HD too
Jeremy: people just aren't pretty enough for HD that's why you'll see a bunch of nature films in hd
Kirk: and football games
Jeremy: sure. so anyway, if sony really wants to get umd going somewhere
Kirk: whats funny is that the news is HD now but a lot of their footage is from eyewitness
home vid or phone cams.
Jeremy: they'll let the porn industry start releasing movies for psp
Kirk: is PSP big enough to support a whole format change?
Jeremy: its not HD, no
its less than standard def. its not the next DVD, its the mobile option
Kirk: i know but will sony allow other companies to make PSP format movie players?
Jeremy: they're up against smaller and higher capacity harddrives and flash memory
if they're smart
Kirk: thats what i always thought the problem with minidisk was.. it was ONLY Sony
Jeremy: right now they're keeping it pretty locked down so that the games don't get ripped off
but they can't keep it like that
Kirk: just seems like youre shooting yourself in the foot if you the only one making the device
that plays what you hopes to be a new standard format.
Jeremy: i dunno
maybe the naming guys just didn't talk to the standards guys
and its not rally intended to be a universal media format
Kirk: its like if Phillips TV's were the only ones HD capable.. no one would give a shit about HD
maybe this is all going over my head
i'm just a layman trying to understand all this tech shit
Jeremy: no, its very much like minidisc
Kirk: as are most people who walk into Best buy
Jeremy: except that they've got a different ganre of users
and they're producing prepublished content instead of blank discs
Kirk: what does PSP, BluRay, and HDDVD and the crap i saw at best buy have incommon?
Jeremy: Bluray and hddvd are the same thing(think vhs and betabax)
Kirk: blue ray being VHS and HD being beta?
Jeremy: they're big screen and large data storage. well, we're not sure which one will come out on top yet
Kirk: but they do the same thing.
Jeremy: that's why you'll see hybrid players that do both
Kirk: makes sense. so you can get hi def on a 90 x 90" flatscreen
Jeremy: basically there were a bunch of companies that jumped on the two bandwagons and don't want to have invested in thewrong format
Kirk: which i guess is the dillema i'm seeing
Jeremy: UMD is completely different
Kirk: and all eyes are on the porn industry
Jeremy: its low quality for tiny screens
Kirk: UMD?..
Jeremy: the PSP discs
Kirk: ok...whats PSP's UMD counterpart? if there is one
what else would you play a UMD on? or is it soley proprietary to SONY PSP players
Jeremy: you might be able to find a umd drive for your computer
for an old development machine
Kirk: basically there isnt any PSP alternatives at this point
just like Minidisk
Jeremy: well
there's the nintendo DS
but its not the same format, no
Kirk: so.. what VCR do i buy?
Jeremy: PAl
that way you can watch all kind of old videos from eurpoe
Kirk: or i can move to japan and have everything, every format and an ass squirter all in one device.
Jeremy: But I'm not buying any HD disc system
I've got a 37 inch tv and regular DVD is fine. when i get my 90 incher I may need hd, but I don't see that happening any time soon
Kirk: i still have never seen HD and cant imagine how it could be any better than real people in color, moving on my screen.. I'll wait for Smell-O-Vision
Jeremy: plus I've got like 300 DVD's that I'm not anxious to make obsolete
Kirk: i said that about cassettes. i still have a box of them in storage
anyway, isnt, video on demand going to make and kind of DVDs obsolete
Jeremy: depends on the libraries they give us access to
and bandwith restrictions and cost and quality and what market competition there is
Kirk: i guess so.. just sorta seems thats how things are going. with itunes and all. no one buys cds anymore.
Jeremy: but I would rather have a physical copy of these anyway
I don't need to to data backups, I don't need to updrage my harddrives
Kirk: me too, which is why i've never payed for a download and why its so surprising that itunes and stuff like that has taken off like it has... i guess i was one of the spoiled ones with napster.
it was free, i took it for granted.
Jeremy: if you think a dvd can hold up to 17 gigs click here
(we'll take half that as an average) and multiply times 300
Kirk: i dont get it
Jeremy: I'd need to 2550 GB of memory to hold my DVD collection
I've got about 70 GIGs right now on my computer
Kirk: thats a lot of gigs
Jeremy: anyway, its very similar to the music debate
Kirk: arent they inventing a 2908734958143206891
539681984197130987095 gig processor that is the size of a gnat's ass
Jeremy: I subscribe to emusic which lets you download a certain number of mp3s per month
so I store my own media. my friend subscribes to rahpsody which streams the music to him when he requests it
Kirk: or you could just put it on gmail.
Jeremy: the difference being that he has access to all the music he wants (as long as its in their catalogue) but after we stop subscribing I'll still have all my music and he'll have nothing
Kirk: ahh.... i dont even like enough music to justify something like that
Jeremy: So that's the down side of on-demand video to me. I don't want to be beholden to a service to keep my investment
Kirk: if you like weird shit you'll only be able to find it on shitty formats too anyway
i like snuff films on 8mm reels.. thats how i roll
Jeremy: haha
Jeremy: try downloading that shit
Kirk: no way man i dont want the FBI on my ass...the NSA is listening!
donkey porn might be classified as "terrorist activiy"
if you are listening.. that last bit was a joke.. all jokes
Jeremy: I don't even know this guy
Kirk: lol
Jeremy: in fact, what's a computer?
ok, lunch time
later
Kirk: see you in prison